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Lot No. 40 Cask Strength Third Edition

Squeezing in a Lot 40 CS 3 Review

10 2080

@talexanderReview by @talexander

15th Feb 2020

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  • Nose
    20
  • Taste
    21
  • Finish
    21
  • Balance
    18
  • Overall
    80

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Alas, this review is a wee bit rushed as I have to be somewhere, but thought I would squeeze it in on this lovely afternoon. It is Corby's third annual release of their Lot 40 Cask Strength, encompassing 5460 bottles. Unlike the previous two editions, this one does not have an age statement.

The colour is a medium caramel. On the nose we have various peppers (white, chilli, poblano), balsamic, butterscotch, brioche and wood smoke. Milk chocolate. Lots of vanilla too. Slightly off with a sour note though. With water we get grapefruit and brine.

Even more sour on the palate, but with the right amount of heat (though a bit too much oak). Creamy mouthfeel. Black liquorice, ground black pepper and candy floss. Much hotter with water. Some complexity here but it is not harmonious and seems way too young.

The finish is a bit chalky, with more oak, grapefruit pith and pencil shavings. Easily the least successful of the three Lot 40 CS releases, and the only one so far without an age statement. I have some of last year's release (11yo, slightly higher strength at 58.4%) and it is SO much better - well rounded, more power and that great Canadian rye note missing from this year's edition: pickle juice. I'm even trying a bit of standard Lot 40 with these, and even though it is much thinner and simpler, it is much more of a pleasure to drink than the CS 3rd Ed. Davin de Kergommeaux gave this a big 93, but I cannot see how. Quite a disappointment.

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20 comments

@OdysseusUnbound
OdysseusUnbound commented

With all due respect, Davin rates every Canadian whisky incredibly high. Like, Snoop Dogg level high. Nice review.

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

@talexander
talexander commented

Thanks but it's not a nice review! It's terribly written! One of my worst, I totally rushed it. Thanks all for liking it but I'm not happy!!!

about one month ago 1Who liked this?

@talexander
talexander commented

@OdysseusUnbound And yes, to quote Taylor Swift, Davin really needs to calm down.

about one month ago 1Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan commented

I have a sample of this courtesy @fiddich1980, and I still have to decide if I want to keep, open or ditch the bottle I have.

I think the review is quite well-written. Maybe in your haste you have been less polished but a gem is a gem.

I found that in the glass it kept on changing. I was not ready to adore it nor was I ready to write it off. It certainly was not a 90 point whisky from the pop of the cork...

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

@fiddich1980
fiddich1980 commented

@Nozinan unless you want to use it as @paddockjudge has to create a Cask Strength Legacy. My opinion is return an unopened bottle and pay a little extra for a Redbreast 12 Cask Strength.

about one month ago 1Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan commented

@fiddich1980 I appreciate the suggestion. It is something I've considered and, should the opportunity to study it more in depth from your sample come up, it is something I will strongly consider.

While there is something to be said for having a complete set... my dog poops every day and we don't save it...

about one month ago 3Who liked this?

@OdysseusUnbound
OdysseusUnbound commented

@talexander You know how much I love a T-Swizzle quote !

I also have a sample from @fiddich1980 and from what I sampled when the bottle was first opened, I’m ok with not having purchased a bottle of this.

about one month ago 1Who liked this?

@talexander
talexander commented

@Nozinan Well thank you! I did leave it in the glass for a few hours (with one of those Glencairn covers) and came back to it - it was smoothed out a little but was still a bit sour. I made up for the experience by grabbing a JD SB BP (they're in the LCBO!) and enjoying with a Montecristo No. 4.

about one month ago 1Who liked this?

@BlueNote
BlueNote commented

Dear old Davin is beginning to push the bounds of credibility.

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

@Victor
Victor commented

@BlueNote no, Davin is right. Every Canadian whisky is great. So is every Scotch. So is every bourbon. So is every rye. So is every rum. So is every vodka. So is every....

It is GREAT to love everything that there is in life, but that does not give us much useful information as to which whiskies we will like better than others.

@OdysseusUnbound the pedagogue in you might say that Davin de K grades Canadian whisky on a curve, an extremely steep curve.

about one month ago 5Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

I too am not a fan of Third Edition. I find the French Oak influence a poor fit for the pot still rye...HOWEVER...Livermore has indicated an influence in the making of Lot No 40 FRENCH OAK came from the reaction of hundreds of whisky lovers in his blending classes. I didn't understand why he would be influenced by these classes when selecting a style for the new LOT No 40 CS.......UNTIL I BLENDED IT MYSELF.

Wiser's 23 YO and Lot No 40 CS Third Edition in a ratio of 2:1 (with a splash of Deanston's Virgin Oak) blew me away!!! I initially called it cask strength Legacy but have since labeled it The Livermore. I also tried this blend with the other CS Lot 40's. They were very good. Third Edition was the best!

There you have it, an 80 score becomes a 90+ score when vatted with W23.

about one month ago 5Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan commented

@paddockjudge I think that CS Legacy would have been an in accurate term, since the Deanston was not CS. You could call it the Livermore Legacy. I would be interested in trying such a blend.

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

@Nozinan, perhaps the completed blend is not truly cask strength, it is definitely CS before the drop or two of 46% virgin oak is added to the vatting....Legacy at 62% abv. is cask strength...ish.

about one month ago 1Who liked this?

@65glenfarclas
65glenfarclas commented

@BlueNote "beginning"? His credibility evaporated the minute he left the world of the malt maniacs and stepped into the dark side of promoting books and the business of selling whisky!

about one month ago 3Who liked this?

@casualtorture
casualtorture commented

Wow, sad news. I loved the 2 I tried and if it's dropped off as much as you say I bet a lot of people will be disappointed.

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

@65glenfarclas
65glenfarclas commented

Maybe I'm just looking to confirm my disappointment/bias against this year's NAS (shame on Dr Livermore, or the marketing department, going from 12, to 11, to 3 years old) but it seems that anyone who has an interest in the whisky business raves about the 3rd edition, while independent reviewers are either lukewarm or say it pales compared to the previous 2 age stated editions. Anyway, I love what the whisky Dr has done for Canadian whisky since putting out the Lot 40 back in 2012 but I'm leaving the 2019 Lot 40 CS on store shelves (plenty still available unlike the previous 2 that sold out in a flash).

about one month ago 4Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

@65glenfarclas, I'm calling you out! That's a bold statement you make

"shame on Dr Livermore, or the marketing department, going from 12, to 11, to 3 years old"

Please share your source for this information.

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

@65glenfarclas
65glenfarclas commented

@paddockjudge my own depraved mind. In the interest of greater accuracy, I should have described the 2019 Lot 40 CS as being "a minimum of 3 years old, though internet sources believe it to be about 8-10"

about one month ago 4Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

@65glenfarclas, Thanks for the quick and frank response. Fair enough, I'm in agreement with that interpretation of the age statement.

I'm not a fan of Lot No 40 CS (NAS) Third Edition on its own, but it can make a positive contribution to a blend.

about one month ago 3Who liked this?

Astroke commented

I picked up the 3rd edition to complete the set. Appears that it is destined for blending and Old Fashions.

about one month ago 2Who liked this?

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