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Peatpete started a discussion

I can't help it, any time I see a whisky bottled at 40% my instant thought is "They have added as much water to this as they are legaly allowed to and still call it scotch, so even the distiller can't have a great opinion of the product" This is (possibly) an unfair way to look at whiskies, but it made me think, whats the best whisky that people have come across that is bottled at 40%? And do you think it would have been better at a higher concentration?

13 years ago

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@LeFrog
LeFrog replied

Good topic and a very good question.

I enjoyed Dalmore King Alexander III which is bottled at 40%. Would it have been more enjoyable at 46%, probably yes.

13 years ago 0

@michaelschout

@LeFrog I've read great things about the King Alexander III.

@Peatpete I'm a big fan of Johnnie Walker Gold Label. I think that if it were bottled at 43% that would be rather good, but I think any higher might wreck the sweetness of it while bringing out more serious flavours. Double-edged sword in my opinion.

13 years ago 0

kian replied

I generally only buy either cask strength whiskies or at least a minimum of 43% but look forward to the day when distileries bottle at 46% as standard. I dont know if that day will ever come but there is at least a growing trend towards it and long may it continue. I guess laphroaig 10 is the best 40% i have had but like i say there havent been many. Funnily enough though I was gonna buy the new dalmore river series today which are 40% and sound like a good set of bottlings especially the tay, and are at 40% , but I had a last minute change of mind and bought 2 berry brothers and a whisky agency instead, maybe next month.......

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

And now to make myself look somewhat silly, I have just realised that JW Blue is bottled at 40%, a drop that I am pretty fond of. Would it be better bottled at 46%... I have almost no doubt at all. I am not very experienced with whiskies yet, but in general I seem to find that the lower %ABVs are a lot easier to drown than the more alcoholic expressions, and I do not believe watered down at the distillery gives the same opening up of nose and taste that you get by adding a few drops at home.

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

Thanks for the feedback. Now I am curious about them! The King Alexander III is a little outside my normal price bracket, but I will definitly be sniffing around for a taste of the JW Gold next time I am near a city. It will be a change for me, as I always seem to find myself drawn to younger whisky.

13 years ago 0

@lucadanna1985

just a quick comment, but it should be forbidden by law to bottle any Islay malt at less than 46 % IMHO! :)

13 years ago 0

UserRemoved replied

Though a bourbon, the Black Maple Hill 21yr (bottled at ABV40%) is one of the best bourbons I've ever tasted.

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

@whiskyshiba That looks like an interesting one. I have read around a little, and it gets some good reviews, but there appears to be a fair bit of controversy about who it is that actualy distills it...

13 years ago 0

UserRemoved replied

@Peatpete Yes, there is a bit of a controversy. Apparently, they purchase their whisk(e)y from Heaven Hill and re-bottle it.

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

@whiskyshiba Of course if its good, it doesnt realy matter where it comes from...

13 years ago 0

UserRemoved replied

@Peatpete Totally agree. As per most reviews, it is one of the best Bourbons out there.

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

@whiskyshiba I have enjoyed my 40 creek, and my Alberta Premium Rye, but I cant bring myself to buy bourbon... I just look at it and a voice in my head whispers "or you could spend the money on an islay scotch..."

13 years ago 0

@HP12
HP12 replied

@Peatpete Those whispers could be Scottish marketing gnomes trying to prevent you from straying and keep your whisky money in their buckets.

For 20-25 bucks, you could buy a Jim Beam Black Label (8 yo). A wonderful Bourbon and a nice way to get acquainted with the other side of the whiskEy world. Murray 2011 Bible gave it a 94.

(whispering)...give it a try, you won't be sorry!

13 years ago 0

UserRemoved replied

@Peatpete There are many excellent Bourbons that are far better than your JWBlue and JWGold at a cheaper price. You never know, you might become a fan.

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

@HP12 I suppose at that price there isnt much to lose... In the absolute worst case I am sure my wife keeps a bottle of coke around the place most of the time!

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

@whiskyshiba I certainly hope so! The JW Blue is something I can only afford to buy when I am getting it duty free! I know the most recent bourbon I tried was a Makers Mark, I cant remember which variety, and I ended up dumping 3/4 of it down the sink. Are there any bourbons that have a smoky kind of taste to them? What I need to do is to trial some of them at a bar somewhere, so I dont have to buy a bottle that I may regret later.

13 years ago 0

@HP12
HP12 replied

@Peatpete Good, sounds like you're open. Now we need @Victor to chime in. He's one of the Bourbon aficionado's within this community and can provide some great direction.

13 years ago 0

UserRemoved replied

@Peatpete Wow! That bad huh. Everyone's got their "Cutty Sark" moment.
The flavour profile of bourbons don't encompass "smokiness." Its like looking for a "peaty" MacAllan. But do try anything from Buffalo Trace up and down their spectrum. Also, maybe the Woodford Reserve Four Grain or Seasoned Oak might fit your taste.

13 years ago 0

@HP12
HP12 replied

@Peatpete Makers Mark would not be my choice that use to I'd introduce someone interested in checking out Bourbon. There are better ambassadors out there.

13 years ago 0

Youngupstart replied

Coming from personal opinion, I think a Buffalo Trace would be a wonderful introductory bourbon, bottled at 45% it won't prickle your palate too much if you are just starting out, and it won't be diluted right to 40% giving a little more body and fullness to the whisk(e)y as a whole. I like Maker's Mark, I believe they have decent expressions and their main bourbon may be a little on the sweeter side, but it very well might appeal to a younger palate. I am not to sure I got any smokey notes, but for the price I would say they are both enjoyable.

13 years ago 0

Peatpete replied

And the wish list grows again...

13 years ago 0

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