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@Mantisking
Mantisking started a discussion

Khakismurf and I did a micro-tasting this weekend, just her and I. We had decided earlier in the week, for some unknown reason at this point, to determine which of the current honey/whiskey liqueurs that we liked best. After the decision had been made I started hitting local liquor stores to grab nip (50mL) bottles of the five liqueurs we had determined would be the ones to be compared. After four days and twelve (!) stores we had a bottle each of Jack Daniels' Tennessee Honey, Seagram's 7 Dark Honey, Bushmill's Irish Honey, Evan William's Honey, and Wild Turkey American Honey -- the last of which was the hardest to find. Saturday afternoon we sat down, broke out the measuring cup, the sample cups, the samples, my notebook, and a large glass of water. Here's how it went.

5.) Bushmill's Irish Honey: Pale Gold color, Thin legs, Honey/Apple/Alcohol nose, Heather/Brief Honey/Alcohol taste, Alcohol Burn aftertaste.

The clear loser in this taste-off. Barely any honey taste and some rather young tasting Bushmills malt to boot.

4.) Seagram's 7 Dark Honey: Gold color, Thin legs, Sweet/Ginger nose, Honey/Ginger/Spice/Orange Citrus taste, Light Spice aftertaste.

This is where Khakismurf and I began to disagree. She thought the Seagram's was more sweet but did not actually have as much of a honey note. I thought it had more flavors than our next entrant.

3.) Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey: Gold color, Moderately Thin legs, Sweet/Ginger nose, Ginger/Honey/Light Spice taste, Light Spice aftertaste.

I thought this was thinner and had more alcohol flavor than the Seagram's. Khakismurf thought this was more mellow and had more of an actual honey flavor.

2.) Evan William's Honey: Pale Gold color, Moderately Thin legs, Starburst (the candy) nose, Honey/Orange Peel/Tiny Spice taste.

Not quite as good as the American Honey, to me. Khakismurf preferred this over the WT as our number one.

1.) Wild Turkey American Honey: Pale Gold color, Thin legs, Citrus/Honey nose, Honey/Citrus/Spice taste, Light Spice aftertaste, Thicker mouthfeel.

With a sweeter, more honey-like flavor, this took first place for me. I have a massive sweet-tooth. Khakismurf liked this one also, but found it a bit too sweet. In combination with the mouthfeel it made her think it was a bit syrupy. I think this and the Evan William's could be switched for the top position depending on how you intended on using them.

So there you have it. Comments, questions, concerns?

11 years ago

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@Victor
Victor replied

There was a little bit of discussion on flavoured whiskies on Connosr awhile back. A friend gave me some Wild Turkey American Honey. It was quite tasty...not that I will be buying a bottle.

I think of these flavoured whiskies as 'sweet cocktails in a bottle'.

11 years ago 0

@GotOak91
GotOak91 replied

I have tried two of these (Jack Daniels and Wild Turkey). I kind of enjoyed the Tennessee Honey better than the WT because it was sweeter on the finish. Anyways I have been reluctant to buy another after having those two.

11 years ago 0

@Mantisking
Mantisking replied

@Victor -- I tend to think of them as what I feel Mead should be like.

@GotOak91-- If you're looking for less sweet, try the Bushmill's.

11 years ago 0

@Pudge72
Pudge72 replied

As long as all 'flavour added' whisky products (the honey's, the cherry's (like Red Stag), and the maple syrup added bottles like Crown Royal Maple, Sortiledge, Gibson's Grey Cup, etc.) are properly shelved in the liqueurs section of the store, next to the Drambuie, then I have no problem with having the general concept of flavoured whiskies exist. However, proper shelving does not always occur, doing a disservice to proper whiskies and the producers of the flavoured products.

11 years ago 2Who liked this?

@michaelschout

Whenever my girlfriend comes along with me to buy whisky she always wants me to buy one of the honey/maple syrup flavoured ones because she loves maple syrup. As a non whisky drinker, she has a difficult time understanding why they're not the true whiskies that I prefer to buy.

@Pudge72 I agree with you. It irks me that at the Summerhill LCBO they're all put in the regular whisky section.

11 years ago 2Who liked this?

@CanadianNinja

@Victor I agree. And personally, I'm not such a fan of 'sweet cocktails in a bottle'.

11 years ago 0

@YakLord
YakLord replied

@michaelschout, @Pudge72 - at the LCBO stores I've been into here in Ottawa, everything is lumped into the regular whisky section, with the exception of the Sortilege, which is in with Liqueurs, but that may have something to do with the % ABV definition - Gibson's 100th Grey Cup, Tap 357, Wiser's Spiced, etc., etc., are all bottled at 40% ABV or higher, while the Sortilege is at 30% ABV, so it has to be classified as a Liqueur.

11 years ago 1Who liked this?

@OCeallaigh
OCeallaigh replied

@Mantisking they actually are very similar to mead. Well, at least the modern versions of mead I have tried. Good thinking. I hadn't really even thought about that.

11 years ago 0

@Pudge72
Pudge72 replied

@YakLord...my thought is that anything that has flavouring specifically added (cherry, honey, maple, etc.), rather than pulling the flavours from the aging process in the cask, and regardless of abv, should go to the liqueur shelf. Somehow, Spicebox (vanilla and spices added, like Wiser's Spiced Whisky) @ 35% abv is more often than not, sitting on the whisky shelf. The Wiser's bottling is at 43% but, to my mind, should also be seen as a liqueur.

Sortilege at least has the decency to properly label itself as a liqueur, so you at least know what you're getting into.

Crown Royal Maple is confusing me...their press talks about a maple toasted finishing process (that could mean they put maple syrup on some wood, toasted the wood, and ran the whisky through the "maple baked" wood...I haven't found any reference to aging the whiskey in maple wood casks). It goes to the point where one item of advert specifically states:

"The legendary taste of Crown Royal perfectly blended with natural maple flavor. Craft a flavored whisky with the quality of Crown, the credibility of whisky, and the approachability of flavor. Our master blender discovered that finishing our celebrated whisky with maple toasted oak results in a uniquely smooth experience. Crown Royal Maple Finished is a true flavored whisky, NOT (my emphasis) a liqueur." (source: streamcompanies.com/email/dmac/…).

Also, based on internet images, it would seem that the press photos use a label that is phrased differently from what is found on the bottles on Ontario liquor shelves...more investigation needed. In the meantime...colour me confused. :?

11 years ago 1Who liked this?

@YakLord
YakLord replied

@Pudge72 - from the brief bit of reading I've done, the CR Maple doesn't seem to have any maple syrup "intentionally" added to it, unlike the Gibson's 100th Grey Cup, which admits that maple syrup has been blended into it. It seems to me that CR runs the whisky over "maple toasted oak" - no in-barrel aging from the looks of it - which means that it likely has absorbed some maple flavouring (much like wine finished whiskies). But yes, it is confusing, and why the sudden plethora of maple flavoured Canadian whiskies? I mean, Sortilege has been around for some time, so why is everyone else suddenly jumping on the band-wagon?

11 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Pudge72
Pudge72 replied

@YakLord...the US market as gone nutty for flavoured bourbon/whiskey (Red Stagg, JD Honey, Evan Williams 'pick a flavour, and they've made it', etc.). I believe the Canadian distillers still sell way more in the US, than they do in Canada, so they have had to respond.

11 years ago 0

@Pudge72
Pudge72 replied

@YakLord...the CR Maple is still a weird process that does not seem to be a natural cask aging/finishing process (i.e. I didn't think maple syrup is ever held in wood casks for its own aging purposes!).

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