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@Mancub
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The LCBO is releasing 7000 bottles of Canadian Club 40 year old whisky in early October for $250. Released at 45% abv, reused bourbon barrels (first used in Canada) that were stripped and charred (no.4). The barrels were then poured into one another within the lot to keep them topped up. Strickly a canadian release. Apparently the cask strength was around 60%, so a little watered down but from one source it was for the better. So many big releases hitting us in October!

6 years ago

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@GoHabs
GoHabs replied

Has anyone purchased a bottle yet? I would love to hear your thoughts.

6 years ago 0

@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@paddockjudge Then Davin can pay $250. I'd try it but even if it is liquid gold on the tongue I won't pay that much for it.

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@OdysseusUnbound

I won’t pay that much for any whisky. I have nothing against anyone else doing it, but it’s about 2 times higher than my self-imposed price limit.

6 years ago 0

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge replied

@Astroke, a nice review by TOModera. I want to try the CC 40 YO corn whisky, but...for now, my favourite Canadian corn whisky is Highwood Ninety 20 YO WHITE LABEL. For the $250 price of CC 40 YO, a Canadian whisky fan could instead enjoy Gibson's 18YO, HW Ninety 20 YO, and Wiser's Red Letter, all are corn or corn based whiskies.

6 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Mancub
Mancub replied

It is a lot of money, but not so much for a 40yo whisky. A few friends and I are going to split on a bottle if we can get one.

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@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@Mancub If you judge by Scotch standards, you're right...it's a steal (if it's THAT good). But remember that they pulled it from the cask at 60%.... you're paying for 25% added water.

6 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Mancub
Mancub replied

@Nozinan it is no doubt a steal by scotch standards but I also feel that it's good value by Canadian standards too. You can't compare it to CC20yo or Highwood 90/20, because a 40yo whisky is an entirely different thing. I think most can agree that we are lucky to have the prices that we do in regards to our native whisky. The new Wiser's 35yo at 50% I feel is better value, but they also aren't pulling out all the stops as CC is with this aged release (same old bottle, same tired label, no box?). On top of the great packaging, CC can boast the oldest Canadian spirit to ever be released to date, it's a piece of history. Yes, it's 25% water, but most whiskies are. 45% is respectable for drinking...now if they tried to get away with 40, that's a different story. I've read one account from someone who tried it at full Cask strength and their honest assessment was that it tastes better at 45%, and that he wouldn't normally prefer that but in this case it was a good thing. It sounds like I'm defending CC40 to the death, I don't actually feel THAT strongly about it. I think it would be better at $200, but I also don't think it is that crazy to pay $250 for what you are getting. In comparison, 5 and 6yo Octomores go for that much. For tasting a piece of history and the experience, I'm happy to be splitting the cost among a few friends.

6 years ago 0

@Victor
Victor replied

@Mancub, all of that current relative price talk for Wiser's 40 yo is pretty realistic, but what I remember is buying Alberta Premium 30 Years Old for Can $ 50 back in 2011. That was good. Hard to believe, but good.

More recently, the Canadian distillers have learned to jack up their prices, just like everybody else does now.

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@GoHabs
GoHabs replied

Whisky in the 6 posted a review on his YouTube channel.

6 years ago 0

@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@Mancub I don't deny 40 YO whisky is likely a steal at $250, but even as a piece of history, it can't be 5 times better than Highwood 90/20. They may be able to justify the price (and the secondary market may agree) but I can't justify the spend.

Most cask strength whiskies contain 30-50% water. The issue I have is that this whisky came out of the cask with 40%water, very nicely flavoured water.... then they added 25% bland, unflavoured (we hope...what about the 9%?) water to it.

When you buy this bottle for $250, you are spending $62.50 for what you pay 7 hundredths of a penny for from the tap.

6 years ago 0

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge replied

@Mancub, SHAME ON YOU!! I feel very strongly about the Wiser's bottle selection and I support it fully. The label is slightly different and I concede that it could have been more unique, but your comments about that bottle are tantamount to sacrilege. The bottle is possibly my favorite. It is a great big heavy-based, square-shouldered, rugged bottle that is almost impossible to tip (in my younger days, one of the the old-timers told me at hunt camp "don't buy the round bottles, they just roll under the bunk"). It is easy to store in the cabinet and, yep, it doesn't roll under the bunk. It is without a doubt the most masculine and rugged whisky bottle currently in use.

All kidding aside, they could have done something a bit different...how about coloured glass?

Now give me 50 quick pushups and don't let it happen again!

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@Mancub
Mancub replied

@Victor It is hard to believe that you paid that just 6 years ago. Times are a changing and at an alarming rate for our sweet lady whisky. Canadian whiskies are surely going up, but not at so alarming a rate when comparing to the competition.

@Nozinan I want to respond with fully fleshed out and articulate thoughts here, but it's difficult while I'm trying to get a 9 month old to bed! Though I can appreciate your line of thinking, I often make my decision on what to purchase by comparing what else I could obtain with the same amount of money, assessing quality by value in that manner doesn't always cut it. And if we are going to go by current prices, I think you meant 4.3x better than Highwood 90/20. There are things to factor in that don't so easily fit into your line of thinking here, rarity and more importantly, the experience. When I order a steak from a restaurant and I pay 5x more for that steak than at the grocery store, I don't expect it to be 5x better. Ask yourself this, if you already had 5 bottles of Highwood 90/20, would you prefer to have a bottle of CC40yo or another 5 bottles of Highwood 90/20? I would choose the CC40yo and that's not a matter of quality or quantity, it's a matter of the experience.

@paddockjudge Hahaha, too funny. I too enjoy the Wiser's bottles, but come on, nothing new or special for a whopping 35yo release?!?! A different coloured glass as you suggested would have been a FANTASTIC idea (you should join their thinktank). I'll be getting to my pushups now..

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@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@paddockjudge Sturdiest? Coming from you? What accidents have you witnessed with round bottles that were were than with some Legacy bottles I recently saw? if only I had pictures to post...

I like the Wiser's shape though they do take more surface area. The neck length differentiates from Nikka From the barrel which is extremely difficult to pour when full.

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