Whisky Connosr
Menu
Shop Join

Forty Creek Confederation Oak Reserve

Canada Eh!

2 1088

@OdysseusUnboundReview by @OdysseusUnbound

15th Jun 2018

0

  • Nose
    24
  • Taste
    22
  • Finish
    21
  • Balance
    21
  • Overall
    88

Show rating data charts

Distribution of ratings for this: brand user

This review is from a sample graciously provided by @Nozinan

This is the Original lot 1867, opened Sept 2015, gassed after each use, 2/3 full when sample was poured April 18 2018.

  • Nose (undiluted): brown sugar, vanilla, plums, figs, oak spice (cloves, nutmeg, rye spice), some nuttiness, and maple developing with time. Very complex nose.
  • Palate (undiluted): rich, medium-bodied, orange peels, walnuts, vanilla frosting, rye
  • Finish: medium length, maple sugar, pepper, with some tart currants lingering

With water, there’s a rush of vanilla on the nose followed by maple sugar and oak notes. On the palate there’s more fruitiness, oranges and apricots, but the body becomes much too thin with a scant half-teaspoon of water. The finish doesn’t change much with water, but the currant note is replaced by a slight bitterness at the tail end. This is definitely better without water.

The nose of this whisky is phenomenal. The flavour and finish are very good, but don’t quite deliver on the nose’s promise. I kind of wish I could have removed the water after I added it. I really wish this one was bottled at 46%-48% ABV. Would I spend $75 on this whisky? I’m not sure. If I did, I’d only drink it neat.

Related Forty Creek reviews

10 comments

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

This is one whisky not in need of gas. I had a bottle of FC Confed Oak (one of many) on the go for almost five years. The last pour from this particular bottle was enjoyed and reviewed by a trusted and respected whisky authority...and was scored at 95 points. n.b. it takes almost five years to give a bottle of whisky nearly five years of air time.

2 years ago 3Who liked this?

@OdysseusUnbound
OdysseusUnbound commented

@paddockjudge I don’t doubt it. I feel it was quite diminished by the addition of water, though even neat there was a discrepancy between the beautiful promise of the nose and what I perceived on the palate and finish. That said, a review from one sample, at one moment in time can only go so far, which is why I fully disclose all the pertinent information.

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan commented

My first taste of this, as essentially a whisky amateur, was at the distillery shop (picking up my numbered bottles), in a mini Glencairn. It was delicious. I searched far and wide for those mini glencairns for years, and when I finally found them, I was able to repeat the experience at home.

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

@RianC
RianC commented

@OdysseusUnbound - ha ha love the title laughing Will most likely never try this but enjoyed the review all the same! Gonna have to break my Canadian cherry soon. Lot 40 looking the most likely suspect but this sounds very appealing.

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

@OdysseusUnbound, you are spot on with your comment " I kind of wish I could have removed the water after I added it."

More than once I asked John Hall, the founder of Kitting Ridge/Forty Creek, about higher proof offerings. On one particular occasion, I can't recall if I asked or if @Nozinan asked the question about higher proof Forty Creek releases, but JK Hall was rather perturbed by this query and even more annoyed when his answer of "no" was countered with "why not"? (this was definitely @Nozinan) Hall proceeded to explain that his whisky was designed to be consumed at the abv at which it was offered in the bottles. He went on to say that he would have no control over the product if a cask strength Forty Creek had water added to it and was not consumed at the precise abv at which he had determined it should be made available...he also said there is no wrong way to drink your whisky and then told a cute story about his wife and how she enjoys her whisky with diet coke. Always a showman and a gentleman, not easy to pull off.

2 years ago 3Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan commented

@paddockjudge Yes, it was at the same tasting that he said that because Canadian whisky has caramel flavour it goes with the caramel in coke...

Indeed I asked about CS. I was upset because the masterclass promised the component whiskies as they were right from the cask, but they were diluted, nothing approached CS.

@paddockjudge did aska follow-up question, and he replied that to increase the ABV it would be about $1.75 per percentage point per bottle in tax. I may have said "I'd pay that".

The more I think about that day, the more I think that's when the shine started coming off forty creek. At least for me.

He also had the look of someone whose liver might have seen better days...

2 years ago 4Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

@Nozinan, Yep, I'd pay that too...he said "$1.45" per degree of alcohol, without skipping a beat.

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan commented

@paddockjudge So that's probably $1.75 in today's dollars..

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge commented

That's what I was thinking! thinking

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

@talexander
talexander commented

@Nozinan His liver has definitely seen better days....maybe that's why he never wanted to increase the ABV!

2 years ago 1Who liked this?

You must be signed-in to comment here

Sign in