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@casualtorture
casualtorture started a discussion

So, I recently was in HK for business and I just had to stop by the Angels Share whisky bar.

I had an amazing time and just wanted to share my night with you all. Probably the best whisky experience I have had. I enjoyed some world class whiskies with my girlfriend @roro which I will describe below in chrono order. All served in a glencairn glass, neat but I added a few drops of water in the Kavalan sherry and Aberlour. I wont give detailed tasting notes because that would be a long write-up but I'll give some general ideas on the drams we had.

1: Kavalan Solist Sherry S100201027A: This came straight from the barrel. They had a barrel of this straight from Taiwan and he poured it right out of the tapped cask. Great whisky if you like strong sherry flavours. I got plums, dark cherry, and fruit punch. It was better after 3 drops of water. Softened out the nose and made it silky sweet. It does benefit from a few drops of water.

2: Glenlivet 16 Nadurra Oloroso cask strength cask# Olo614 60.7% - Suprisingly this was my least favorite of the night. It had kind of a sour, bitter taste i just couldn't get past. Nice long finish though.

3: Alberlour A'bundah cask strength approx 60%: I didn't get cask info on this one, but it was heavily sherried and full of flavor. Delicious dram but also needed about 3 drops of water to smooth and soften this big whisky out.

4: Balvenie 14 Caribbean: So when I nosed this, I was scared. Very sweet nose. But after a drink I really enjoyed the palate and finish. Smooth, sweet with a rum-spice finish. Great summer whisky. Just skip the nose...

5: Arran 2006 8yrs: So, if you know me, you know I am biased toward Arran. I love this distillery and Arran 14 is my favorite single malt. This one was also excellent. Super smooth, sweet vanilla and cream, signiture Arran that really seems to fall in line with my personal taste.

6: Highland Park 18: Good easy going dram here. Smooth and sweet like the 12 with more refinement and a tingly spice on the finish.

7: Kavalan Solist Bourbon Cask: I have had this before, and this dram was on the house along with the Aberlour. Honestly, despite popular opinion, I enjoy this one over the sherry cask. I don't need to add water unlike the sherry cask. Great flavors, and smooth. My favorite of the Kavalan Solist line I have had so far.

8: Ardbeg Uigeadial 2016: I wanted to end the night with some peat. So this was one of 2 Oogies we had. Although I didn't write down the exact code, this is a 2016 bottle, and was better than the last drink we had which was from a 2014 batch.

9: Ardbeg Uigeadail 2014: Last dram of the night sadly. I could stay here all night. And also sadly this one was not as good as the 2016 batch we had just before. Surprised me because I hear that the older batches are better. But the 2016 had stronger, more distinct flavours.

I had a wonderful time here and anytime you guys are in HK you have to stop by here. The owner is great and he obviously knows his whisky. Anyway I thought I would share this and the wonderful time I had. All for under 900HKD. Beat that in the US.

7 years ago

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@jeanluc
jeanluc replied

Thanks for sharing this it sounds like a great evening!

7 years ago 0

@Victor
Victor replied

That's a fun and very enthusiastic tale. I'd like to get back to Hong Kong. The last time I was there was in 1980.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@GoodVintage
GoodVintage replied

Nice lineup

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

That is an impressive line of drams. I must admit I was surprised to see you listed the Nadurra Oloroso as the 16yo. I always thought (and the only ones I have seen) were NAS. Anyway, I have also read mixed reviews, especially by those who are "into" sherry-bombs. Some people enjoy the Dalmore expressions and Aberlours end up being unimpressed with it. Okay, not everyone, but seems to be a consistent theme online. I am not a huge fan of the heavily peated whiskies, but I might just have to try UIgeadail some day after reading your reviews, and watching others on YouTube.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@casualtorture

@ajjarrett the owner said it was 16 so im just going off of what he said i didnt see the bottle like i should have.

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@casualtorture No worries.

If you are not worried it is a NAS whisky, then you don't have a problem. There are some good NAS whiskies out there. There are lovers of Ardbeg Uigeadail, Aberlou A'bunadh, and others. I do wonder if the dram of the Oloroso Nadurra you had was from a bottle that was just opened. There are some whiskies that are 'not-so-enjoyabl' right out of the bottle. Time and air (oxidization) does help 'open' up a whisky (as you know well). I also wonder if you had a particular batch that was 'off.' For example, I just opened a bottle of Jura Turas Mara, and I enjoy it very much. While a friend of mine, said he liked it but it had a strange finish. I didn't experience anything he described. But he got his bottle a while ago, so maybe there was a difference in batches.

Getting back to the Nadurra Oloroso, I do not plan to plan on going out and buying a bottle. It is more expensive than the 16yo Nadurra, and I love the 16yo too much to spend the money for the Oloroso.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@ajjarrett @casualtorture I have tried the NAS Olorosso Nadurra, and it was, in the immortal words of the late Jack Layton (who apparently enjoyed the occasional Scotch), a #FAIL

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@paddockjudge
paddockjudge replied

@ajjarrett, @casualtorture,

Regardless of age, the Nadurra Oloroso is in my opinion an epic fail. I sampled, but could not finish this one. It was the first dram of the night at what was to be another epic tasting hosted by @talexander. It does make good drain cleaner, @Nozinan and I can both attest.

7 years ago 2Who liked this?

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@paddockjudge Thank you for mentioning your experience. I was avoiding it, since I love the 16y Nadurra so much and didn't want to spend the money.

7 years ago 0

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge replied

@ajjarrett, I totally agree with you, the Nadurra 16 YO is lovable whisky. I was able to add one to my cabinet last month due to some excellent sleuthing by @Nozinan and @ Nosbleed...thanks fellas!

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@paddockjudge A bit of sleuthing for the 16yo Nadurra? Where are you located? And if I may ask, how much was it? It is available at many shops in my area of Denver, Colorado, but I do know where to go where it is readily available. I have already prepared for the inevitable drop if availability, by buying six bottles that I have in storage.

And for Casualtorture -- Have you been able to find it in China? I think you can get it on jd.com Since you are in China here is the link item.jd.com/1556421638.html

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@paddockjudge
paddockjudge replied

@ajjarrett,

I am located in Northern Ontario, a couple of hundred miles from Toronto...and what a blizzard we had today! Thank you for the Colorado low. The bottle was obtained for me in Calgary. It looks like all the Nadurra 16 YO is west of the Great Plains..

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@paddockjudge Ah, a friend of mine and former colleague is from Ontario, and teaches (or used to teach) North York. Well, If I may ask, which batch is your Nadurra ?

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@paddockjudge Ah, you answered exactly what I wanted to know before I submitted my inquiry. I am drinking a dram of 12y Bunnahabhain, but the bottle of 16yo Nadurra I have opened is Batch 0712U, at 55.5%ABV.

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@paddockjudge I didn't know Murray reviewed this one. I am not much of a Jim Murray fan, but I guess since you mentioned it, I will look up what he had to say about it.

7 years ago 0

@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@ajjarrett @paddockjudge

It should be noted that @Nosebleed made the supreme sacrifice as he really likes the Nadurra, and the 0814D was rated as an exceptional batch by @antihero back in July last year on his website. Because he mentioned some was still available I was looking out for it. I believe we picked it up in a small "mom and pop" franchise of what is @markjedi1's favourite chain, (Han) Solo Liquor. This is the same store that had a couple of bottles of Springbank Claret Wood a couple of years after it had sold out everywhere else... I think now we have officially cleaned them out of anything worth getting...

7 years ago 2Who liked this?

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@Nozinan Interesting stories of hunting down the Nadurra 16yo in Canada. Thanks for sharing.

@casualtorture -- How has your whisk(e)y hunting been in China?

7 years ago 0

@casualtorture

@ajjarrett well locally where i live in mainland availibility rather sucks. other than 1 whisky bar all you can find is the basics like 'fiddich 12, macallan 12 sherry (very popular here), talisker 10 etc. thankfully i have t-mall (chinese amazon) and aiwhisky.com where i can order a pretty decent selection. i think i will pick up some arran 18 from ai soon. been wanting to try it.

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@casualtorture If and when you order something from Aiwhisky, please tell Helen I said hello.

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@casualtorture If Aiwhisky still has Glendronach 15yo Revival in stock, I recommend. At 600RMB it is a good price. It has been discontinued, and is almost impossible to get it here in the US.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@casualtorture

@ajjarrett yeah i also want to order the farclas 15 since we don't get it back home

7 years ago 0

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@casualtorture Both are good choices. If you like peat and with it Speyside whisky notes of fruits and spring/summer grassy fields, I recommend the Benromach 10yo Imperial Proof.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@ajjarrett Here is the link item.jd.com/10844325408.html to a supplied using jd.com, which is also the same found on tmall. I don't think Aiwhisky has the 10yo Benromach Imperial Proof listed on their website, so you will have to ask Helen if they can get it for you.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@ajjarrett Of course in all countries where Donald Trump is NOT the President, The Benromach is called 100 proof, not Imperial proof.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@ajjarrett
ajjarrett replied

@Nozinan That's a good one, and so is the 10yo Benromach 100. For tonight, I ended the evening with a dram of the 12yo Yamazaki.

7 years ago 1Who liked this?

@casualtorture

@Victor HK is wonderful. Probably the most diverse city I have stayed in. I really didn't want to come back to mainland. HK has a certain sophistication and cosmopolitan atmosphere especially on the island. Something mainland certainly lacks. And my suits I get tailored there are beautifully made. If i could afford to live there I would. It's tough because I loved Thailand too and it's cheaper there, but HK is just one of those cities with a personality that makes you want to stay.

7 years ago 0

@Nozinan
Nozinan replied

@casualtorture Really? i found it muggy, polluted (you could see the air) and crowded...

But my wife liked it.

7 years ago 0

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