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Bunnahabhain should do the trick, or Caol Ila unpeated, but Its not gonna be like peated whisky offcourse
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Full and rich unpeated, bourbon matured. A nàdurra perhaps?
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@Rovaben you could also try some Glengoyne or Glencadam. Some Arrans ight also be suitable.
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The nadurra 16 seems very interesting, but seems to be discontinued? Also the glengoyne sounds good, but some bad reviews on masterofmalt about ashtray and sigaretbut smells kind of scare me off. :S Arran is on my list as an option!
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@Rovaben, "no peat, no sherry, but full and rich"....most folks around here don't really believe that there is such a beast, if you look at their preferences. Unadorned barley-malt can be quite delicious though, as some of us are willing to attest. Check out Discussions Simply Awesome Scotch and The Taste of Barley. There are multiple suggestions in those discussions.
If you go with Isle of Arran, I suggest the 14yo. It is a whole lot more sophisticated (viz. better) than the 10 yo. Also if you have it available Linkwood makes a very delicious malt. Their 12 yo is the standard expression, I believe.
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Ho Victor, thanks for pointing me to those discussions! It kind of sums up my feeling. Can anyone tell me how noticable the sherrie finish is in: bunnahabhain 12, glengoyne 12/10 and arran 14/10?
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@Rovaben, you will get a little wine on those Glengoynes. The Bunnahabhain 12, and the two Arrans show none or next to none of the wine influence. Personally the Arran 14 I've tried has been a great whisky. I would never buy a bottle of the Arran 10.
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Try the Balvenie 15 yr Single cask it has been discontinued , but you may still find one , or the Balvenie12 yr single cask . Be aware the new Balvenie 15yr is sherry cask.
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@Rovaben how come you are searching for this particular whisky style?
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I did like the Balvenie 12 YO single cask near the end of the bottle I gave my uncle. Air definitely helped it.
Another option is to find an Amrut (unpeated) cask strength or single bourbon cask Amrut. Both are very full-flavoured and have no peat and no sherry.
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Thanks for the tips all! Alex, the reason why I am looking for this is that I already have a variety of peated whisky's that I love (lagavulin/ardbeg/talisker), besides that I found I just really do not like sherrie finished whisky's (I had a bottle of abunadh and glendronach 15.) I do love the more "normal" whisky's but haven't really found anything outstanding yet of which I would buy another bottle. My thinking was I love the "full" and "thick" feel of lagavulin (or good old rum for that matter), I want that feel in a non peat/sherrie or other finish whisky. Compared to say dalwhinnie, which I like, but is to light to my taste. Maybe this explanation helps? :)
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I am now planning to get a bottle of arran 14 and nadurra 16, but I'll be pissed if I find the nadurra is really awesome and what I am looking for, as it is discontinued and all :P
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@Rovaben vooreenmooiglas.nl still has the Nadurra 16 at €65 +7 p&p but you can offset the delivery if you buy a few different bottles. Price is around same as pay in UK around £48 there are a number of online stores which will deliver to you in the Netherlands. I have used this store and they do not invoice by PayPal until they confirm the items are in stock the packaging was excellent as well as only taking 5 days to deliver to UK. The Nadurra is an excellent drop and I don't think you wil regret the purchase, Victor did point out to me that it is better when fresh usually before gets to 6 months open.
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@Rovaben, also, it sounds as though Nadurra may likely be continued without the age statement. If so, I'll bet the changes in it in age and quality will probably be fairly minor, at least in the beginning. Nadurra at 13 or 14 years old would still be very desirable, to me.
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It's hard to say. The peat is a lot of what makes Lagavulin so great. Caol ila produced a bottling out without peat a while back. I never got it since Caol Ila isn't a favorite of mine. As for a good non peated with oceanic character I would recommend Springbank 12 cask strength. It is traditional whisky making at its best these days. A real bargain price wise too with plenty of maritime character and tantalizing sweet notes
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Bunnahabhain 12 seems like a good bet. A bit of sherry influence there, but not overpowering. How about Balvenie 14 caribbean? Quite rich and smooth without much sherry, and Benromach 10. I think you just need to find the non over-powering sherry sweet spot, and I think these all have it to some degree.
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The Bunnahabhain 12 is a rich, full and round whisky, at 46% abv and no chill filtration. There is a fair amount of sherry influence though. I am through a third of my bottle of bunna 12, and am thoroughly enjoying it. It is very aromatic, sweet, some coastal salt, mineral notes, rich dark fruits, light oak, honey, and ... a very, very shy peat note, which makes this whisky complex and very enjoyable. I highly recomend it, but like I said, it is sherry influenced. After experiencing the bunna 12, I found it hard to go back to a bottle of Glenfiddich 15, which now seems watery to me, at 40% abv, that's how rich the bunna 12 is. It needs some time to open up though.
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Bruichladdich 10 yr I felt had a rich/malty flavor.
Another is the Arran 14 yr...For a blast of vanilla richness I enjoy the Benriach 12 yr.
On the way home from work I'm thinking of picking up the latest offering by Glenfiddich - the 14 yr Bourbon Barrel Reserve (however for the USA market only).
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Bunnahabhain's are usually quite heavily sherried. all other malts from Islay are usually heavily peated. i can recommend : 1. Glenlivet 15, French oak reserve. 2. Middleton very rare (highly recommended.. a bit of sherry, and not cheep though) 3. Balvenie 15
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Hi all, in for a update. I tried the arran 14, I like it, but it still has some sherry to it, though I can appreciate it like this, I am inspired to try another sherry bomb and give it some more time and attention. Today I opened the nadurra 16 for my 30th birthday. I love it! This is what I have been looking for. It has very "full" and rich taste. Now only hoping the NAS statement will come close, though I will try to score another bottle of 2 of this one probably!
Again thanks for the advice!
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@Rovaben glad to hear you love the Nadurra it is a favourite of mine, hope you get some of the 16 year bunkered before it gets too scarc.
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All of the recommendations so far have been focused on single malts... witht eh exception of a mention or two of Midleton and Amrut.
These would be my suggestions for single malts: Highland Park 18 or 21 Oban 14 Ben Nevis (anything 14-17 YO) - you will need to find an independent bottling Scapa 16 Old Pulteney 17
I have and have tasted all but the Old Pulteney (which is on my wish list) and I think these will fit your wish for something full & rich, but without the peat of Lagavullin 16.
Would you be willing to experiment with some blended malts or other whiskies? Suggestions:
Blended: Compass Box Spice Tree (blended malt) Compass Box The Lost Blend (blended malt) Compass Box Great King Street - Artist's Blend (blended whisky) (really, IMHO, anything from Compass box is worth trying...)
Irish: Redbreast 12 Teeling Small batch (matured in rum casks)
Since I am Canadian, there are some excellent Canadian whiskies, but not sure of their availability in USA and Europe, but these would be some to be on the lookout for at your local retailers. The whiskies below are some of my preferred Canadian craft distilled whiskies - I tend to stay away from the Crown Royals, Canadian Club, etc.
Forty Creek Copper Pot Reserve Forty Creek special releases - any you can get your hands on - limited releases (with the 2014 Campari acquistion, we should see expanded distribution of Forty Creek products in the USA and possibly europe?)
Corby Distillers: Wiser's - Small Batch, Double Still, Red Letter, 18 YO Lot No. 40, Pike Creek 10 YO (Corby is creating very interesting whiskies...)
Still Waters Distillery: Stalk & Barrel Single Malt Stalk & Barrel 100% Rye These are young whiskies - just a few months older than 3 years. But they are excellent, given the young age. Watch for these as they will only get better.
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Like tfahey1298 mentioned (amongst others) I would suggest Oban 14.@Rovaben
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I'll throw one more horse in this race: Kilkerran Work In Progress Bourbon Wood #7.
Actually two: Kavalan Solist Bourbon.
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Well, I tried very little bourbon up to now, but I didn't really like it. But I am willing to try more! The nadurra 16 has proven to be a great example of what I asked! I'm really sad it is discontinued! Anyone knows a replacement that comes near it in taste and experience?
The oban 14 is now definitely next on my list! Thanks for even more advice guys ;)
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@Rovaben It's all the same 'idea' but there are big differences. The Olorosso NAS is different, that doesn't need any explination. The First Fill NAS is first fill bourbon barrels, younger but more wood flavour (first fill). The Nadurra 16 is the original. When you can't find the Nadurra 16. Try Deanston 12 or Arran 10. Both 100% bourbon barrels with a better price tag.
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@curifreeshop this is not really a buying and selling website. If you go to Whiskybase you can put the bottle up for auction or sell it directly.
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Hi everyone,
I am looking for something specific I am seeking your advice from. I want something that is full and rich like lagavullin 16, but without the peat. I also don't want it to be sherried like abunadh!
Hope you got some advice!