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What am i missing from this Glenmorangie 10?

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@Dyle
Dyle started a discussion

Hello fellow Whisky Connoisseurs, Two days ago I bought my first Single Malt, Glenmorangie 10 Years on the basis that it is a great way to start enjoying and understanding Whisky.

The glassware I'm using are the tumblers that came with the gift pack, which seem very nice and applicable to nose whisky. I take a smell from the top of the bottle and I can smell the honey....and it smells so sweet and lovely and I can't get enough of it! But then I pour into the glass and nose and something seems to be missing....it doesn't smell of honey anymore.....

Then I sip. And the taste just seems muddled up and a little lost.....the finish is alright I suppose...but this, to me, is nothing spectacular......and apparently it should be....

What am I not understanding? Should I warm up my palate some how before hand? A few drops of water didn't make a huge difference either. Is it supposed to be so subtle and passive?

Thank you everyone, looking forward to your help, advice and insight!

13 years ago

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@Victor
Victor replied

@Dyle, maybe you are not really missing anything at all. Maybe you are just looking for a different taste profile. I would address your questions by asking you a few as well: especially, what have you been drinking previously, and what are you expecting from malts in general and Glenmorangie 10 in particular? Glenmorangie 10 is a mild-mannered kind of malt. If you are looking for easy, fruity, sweet, and mellow, you can find those things in this malt. If you are looking for fireworks, go for something highly peated or intensely sherried, preferably at cask strength. Some of us like the light stuff, some the intense stuff, some both subtle and intense, depending on the mood and frame of mind. I am in the 'likes all kinds' camp myself. I like Glenmorangie 10 quite a bit, but I don't go there for thrills and chills. There are a lot of other places where you can find those. Have you been drinking Taliskers, Ardbegs, Laphroaigs, or Lagavulins, in the highly peated category? Or, sherry bombs like Aberlour A'bunadh, Glenfarclas 105, or Macallan Cask Strengh? Those are 'thrills and chills' whiskies. Have fun. You will discover much as long as you keep looking...and drinking.

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@Victor
Victor replied

@Dyle, also, I suggest that for good initial malt-drinking experiences, that you at first select the malts you taste from Connosr's Most Popular Top 50 member rated whiskies. Your taste is not going to be just the same as anyone else's, but that is a very good place to get recommendations, because that is the composite of the opinions of many whisky drinkers.

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@Dyle
Dyle replied

Victor thank you for your brilliant reply. To answer your question, i have been drinking chemicals, mainly Johnny Walker Black Label in a glass with a mountain of ice. Then I once had a Macallan at a bar (Don't know which Macallan) and that is what started it all for me really. I distinctly remember the finish being long and almost vanilla like. It was wonderful. It was, explosive.

I believe that i do need something that has more taste! Something that I can prominently say, "Yes! I taste that Honey! Or Vanilla!" .....I'm thinking of picking up myself a Balvenie, Dalmore or Macallan next week to try and see if I can find that boom! But not alcohol boom, but sweet, prominent taste of a boom! Nothing too smoky just yet (Then again.....i might be wrong!) .....

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@Victor
Victor replied

@Dyle, if you were in my living room now, I would sit you down for a 25 whisky tasting to explore the range of taste parameters available, so that you can directly experience the flavours and decide which types of flavour profiles you like. Since you are at some distance I would recommend doing the equivalent thing on your own as best you can. An establishment with flights or small tastings is best, but, failing that, try them one or two at at time. Find some mates and engineer some swaps so that you are not always paying the 'by the drink' price. Go for the intense stuff. Many whisky lovers really start there and stay there. Any Ardbeg is a good place to start. The Ardbeg 10 is quite affordable and very good. Talisker 10 is a classic. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of really good whiskies out there. These Connosr postings are full of discussions and recommendations about what is good. My first five for you would be: Talisker 10, Ardbeg 10, Macallan 18 (or Cask strength, not as refined, but much less expensive), Glenfarclas 15, and Highland Park 18.

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@Dyle
Dyle replied

:) Would have loved to take you up on that warm invitation.

I shall most certainly be looking into some of the Whisky's you have suggested! :) Thank you greatly, I'm really looking forward to discovering this domain in my life!

13 years ago 0

@Victor
Victor replied

@Dyle, I also have a feeling that you might quite like the whisky that I just reviewed, Cardhu 12.

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@jeremyeccles
jeremyeccles replied

@Dyle The Macallan 12 Sherry Wood is also a great place to start with The Macallan (and cheaper than the 18). It has a nice, full flavor with a hint of smoke. Though, it's more of a wood smoke than a peat smoke which is a nice change from the peaty Islays like the Ardbeg.

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@CharlieDavis
CharlieDavis replied

Dyle,

Tumblers are actually not a good stemware for appreciating fine whisky. For an alternative that you will find startling in it's superiority for nosing whisky, check the below links:

www.scotchwhiskyglass.com/glassware.htm www.scotchwhiskyglass.com/copita.htm

The GlenCairn whisky glass is great for an overall experience, but purely for nosing, the copita is even still more discriminating. It's like the difference in cheap and good speakers; you can discern so many more details with good stemware. If I were you, I would buy at least one of each glass--for less than the price of a decent bottle, you will change the whole game. Then take the time to learn to nose: tilt the glass, place the rim between your upper lip and your nose, inhale gently through the nose and open mouth at the same time (this prevents the spirit from overwhelming the nose). Spend a lot of time no song before you take a sip.

Then, when tasting, Take a breath before tasting; take a small sip; let the sip slide down your throat and gently exhale through the nose, thus nosing the whisky both on the inhale, and on the exhale.

As far as the GlenMorangie goes, look for interesting spice notes; look for the grain; picture the roasted barley in your mind as you nose; try to put a name on the notes that you notice--what is that smell?--look for fresh mown hay; look for floral notes. GM is extremely complex, and we who are so deeply into this like to try to identify the complexities. Of course our opinions vary, and you will have your own.

Welcome. You've chosen a great whisky to start with. May your expiration bring you many rewards.

Charlie

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@CharlieDavis
CharlieDavis replied

Jeez--I appear to have some text correction acting here. I was trying to say "Spend time NOSING before tasting"--and and I hope to Christ you don't EXPIRE! I was trying to wish you luck with your EXPLORATION...

Ch

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@Dyle
Dyle replied

:) Those autocorrections can get the best of us! :)

I have actually put an order in for two Glencairn glasses and will look into some other glassware of course! I believe that might be a great problem with me enjoying this expression. I seem to love nosing the bottle but alas everything seems lost in that tumbler they've un-thoughtfully given out!

I'll be taking yours and Victors advice not only into consideration, but into proper action to reach this level of understanding. Patience i believe will be key into learning; A daily exploration. :)

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